I remember you once said "some years it just wants to snow". Could this be one of those years?
I was thinking about that today.
Not sure right now this is one of those years (I haven't yet witnessed a snow shower at 45 degrees), but it could be a viable candidate. If we see snow on Wednesday, I won't be at all surprised to see snow #3 coming along afterwards.
I remember you once said "some years it just wants to snow". Could this be one of those years?
I was thinking about that today.
Not sure right now this is one of those years (I haven't yet witnessed a snow shower at 45 degrees), but it could be a viable candidate. If we see snow on Wednesday, I won't be at all surprised to see snow #3 coming along afterwards.
Post by snowlover91 on Jan 12, 2018 21:39:44 GMT -5
Without UK, CMC and German model support I’m not sold on this event yet. Let’s get it in range of the meso models and then see if they show anything. I don’t trust globals after their miserably bad performance with the last storm, showing absolutely nothing for days before finally catching on 48 hours out.
Post by downeastnc on Jan 12, 2018 23:46:49 GMT -5
This is gonna happen, just the fact its a repeating Wed storm is enough to sell me on it, but its got the Euro,GFS,Navgem and now CMC and ICON all showing some form of snow over us next Wed....they will fluctuate with timing and strength etc but the chances are going up pretty fast that we see accumulating snow next Wed....It wont be till Sunday when the hi res come into range and the energy is starting to get sampled that the details will start to get clear. I wouldn't ignore it just cause its only the globals Snow whenever the GFS/Euro/Navgem all have it there is usually something there.
Last Edit: Jan 12, 2018 23:50:10 GMT -5 by downeastnc
This is gonna happen, just the fact its a repeating Wed storm is enough to sell me on it, but its got the Euro,GFS,Navgem and now CMC and ICON all showing some form of snow over us next Wed....they will fluctuate with timing and strength etc but the chances are going up pretty fast that we see accumulating snow next Wed....It wont be till Sunday when the hi res come into range and the energy is starting to get sampled that the details will start to get clear. I wouldn't ignore it just cause its only the globals Snow whenever the GFS/Euro/Navgem all have it there is usually something there.
Maybe, but even if we do get the moisture, we could easily see a meso low like the Euro has and be all rain with snow to end. The 12z euro was pretty ugly for us with almost all rain and finally ending as light snow. Waiting to see if the UK comes on board tonight, should be out soon.
Post by snowlover91 on Jan 13, 2018 0:29:30 GMT -5
No idea what temps are like but the UK finally came aboard with decent qpf in the area. Looks like .2 to .4 across Eastern NC and ratios would be pretty high 15:1 or higher due to frigid temps aloft.
This is gonna happen, just the fact its a repeating Wed storm is enough to sell me on it, but its got the Euro,GFS,Navgem and now CMC and ICON all showing some form of snow over us next Wed....they will fluctuate with timing and strength etc but the chances are going up pretty fast that we see accumulating snow next Wed....It wont be till Sunday when the hi res come into range and the energy is starting to get sampled that the details will start to get clear. I wouldn't ignore it just cause its only the globals Snow whenever the GFS/Euro/Navgem all have it there is usually something there.
Maybe, but even if we do get the moisture, we could easily see a meso low like the Euro has and be all rain with snow to end. The 12z euro was pretty ugly for us with almost all rain and finally ending as light snow. Waiting to see if the UK comes on board tonight, should be out soon.
The Euro still keeps the snow inland and more N/S versus E/W....but its kinda by itself and it hasn't exactly been burning up the verification scores lately so it being different isn't as daunting as it normally would be for the Euro to be Dr Noing you.
Almost all models have a decent event now, the Euro,GFS,UK,CMC,ICON,Navgem all show accumulating snow over or darn close to us.....with really cold upper air with 15:1 rations with even .25-.30 QPF would be 4-6" that's pretty darn good considering we just had one that big a week ago. This setup is usually good for us if the storm actually forms and dives into the bottom of the trough, we really need to see it evolve to going slightly neg over us instead of a tiny bit pos or neutral like it is now...
Last Edit: Jan 13, 2018 2:37:16 GMT -5 by downeastnc
Post by snowlover91 on Jan 13, 2018 13:10:08 GMT -5
Globals are backing off QPF today with general .10 or less amounts across the area. I still think we will need to wait until we get in the range of the NAM to have a good idea, the globals were all way too dry with our last storm at this range, except the UK which did quite well.
Post by downeastnc on Jan 13, 2018 13:42:11 GMT -5
Yeah chances this is a big event are fairly small IMO, a general 2-3" is probably about the most we will see.....if the coastal forms close enough or this thing tilts more neg then that would change for the better...a lot will depend on how it evolves if the main energy goes around the mts and crosses SC to our south and then pops a surface low around Charleston that moves NE we will do much better than a low popping off Hatteras....so how much this thing actually digs will make it or break it. Still when these clipper type Miller B scenarios that follow the above example we tend to see them over perform for us.
Last Edit: Jan 13, 2018 13:43:02 GMT -5 by downeastnc
Just tweeted by the National Weather Service Morehead City: “While there is a 40% chance of light snow on Wed, it is too early to say how much and even if it will snow at all. The system will likely be quite weak, and the air mass ahead of the system will not be all that cold, so some places esp near the coast may just be rain. Stay tuned!”
Post by snowlover91 on Jan 14, 2018 0:35:19 GMT -5
Latest UK is quite juicy and tries to get a coastal going. It’s a tad late but if it pops sooner then watch out. Verbatim this is .3 to .4 in qpf for Eastern NC and would drop 3-5” of snow easily.